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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Colin</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was kinda half intending to eventually add a VU Meter  to kmix for output and inputs, so this would probably be sufficient for testing levels which is probably enough to confirm it &quot;works&quot;. Maybe a little dedicated GUI for recording and playback for testing purposes would be quite nice too tho&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was kinda half intending to eventually add a VU Meter  to kmix for output and inputs, so this would probably be sufficient for testing levels which is probably enough to confirm it &#8220;works&#8221;. Maybe a little dedicated GUI for recording and playback for testing purposes would be quite nice too tho&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Quintesse</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Colin, nice work on the GUI!

One thing that always seems missing in these dialogs is the input side. Wouldn&#039;t it be great to have a tab for microphone setup as well? Lot&#039;s of times I wonder if my input is working and need to fall back to trying to record samples with audio recording apps, some of which are so comlpex that I don&#039;t know if the fault is with the hardware or with me just not understanding the options :)

A dialog like the one you made would be perfect. As an example would server the typical sound setup dialogs with programs like Skype where you can see a meter showing if anything is being recorded and the ability to listen back to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colin, nice work on the GUI!</p>
<p>One thing that always seems missing in these dialogs is the input side. Wouldn&#8217;t it be great to have a tab for microphone setup as well? Lot&#8217;s of times I wonder if my input is working and need to fall back to trying to record samples with audio recording apps, some of which are so comlpex that I don&#8217;t know if the fault is with the hardware or with me just not understanding the options <img src='http://colin.guthr.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A dialog like the one you made would be perfect. As an example would server the typical sound setup dialogs with programs like Skype where you can see a meter showing if anything is being recorded and the ability to listen back to it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Markus</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would I go through all that trouble when simply disabling and using pure Alsa fixes the countless PA problems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I go through all that trouble when simply disabling and using pure Alsa fixes the countless PA problems?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Colin</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as people don&#039;t report and try and debug such issues, they wont get fixed.... living in a bubble FTW :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as people don&#8217;t report and try and debug such issues, they wont get fixed&#8230;. living in a bubble FTW :p</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Colin</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Longer term I&#039;d certainly like such a GUI to exist, but I think it will all depend on one of my other modules in PA that I&#039;ve not given much love to of late: module-loader. This is ultimately going to replace module-gconf and should basically be a glorified module loader. This could then automatically load the appropriate module-remap-sink modules that would allow for your kind of setup.

I&#039;ve not really got a schedule for this, but if no-one else does it first, I&#039;ll get round to it eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longer term I&#8217;d certainly like such a GUI to exist, but I think it will all depend on one of my other modules in PA that I&#8217;ve not given much love to of late: module-loader. This is ultimately going to replace module-gconf and should basically be a glorified module loader. This could then automatically load the appropriate module-remap-sink modules that would allow for your kind of setup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not really got a schedule for this, but if no-one else does it first, I&#8217;ll get round to it eventually.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by TheBlackCat</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great!  Glad to see better 5.1 control.

Will there be any support for rewiring different channels?  That is one thing there is still no GUI for of any sort that I have seen.  

So for instance I have 2 2.1 speakers and 2 1.0 speakers.  I use it as a 5.1 speaker setup, but this requires re-routing the various channels on my sound card as so:
Left-front and LFE -&gt; Left Front
Right-front and LFE -&gt; Right-front
Left-rear -&gt; Left-rear
Right-rear -&gt; Right-rear
Center and LFE -&gt; Center
Center and LFE -&gt; LFE


There is no GUI for this that I know of.  It should be possible to do, you would need a list of output channels, and then have a drop-down list where you could select the input channel and the volume of that channel, and probably a +/- button for adding input channels to each output channel.  It might also be needed to set it individually for 2 channel, 4 channel, 6 channel, and 8 channel inputs.

This would also be really useful for people with surround sound systems running stereo inputs who want to, for instance, route Left to Left-front and left-rear, right to right-front and right-rear, and both to center/LFE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great!  Glad to see better 5.1 control.</p>
<p>Will there be any support for rewiring different channels?  That is one thing there is still no GUI for of any sort that I have seen.  </p>
<p>So for instance I have 2 2.1 speakers and 2 1.0 speakers.  I use it as a 5.1 speaker setup, but this requires re-routing the various channels on my sound card as so:<br />
Left-front and LFE -&gt; Left Front<br />
Right-front and LFE -&gt; Right-front<br />
Left-rear -&gt; Left-rear<br />
Right-rear -&gt; Right-rear<br />
Center and LFE -&gt; Center<br />
Center and LFE -&gt; LFE</p>
<p>There is no GUI for this that I know of.  It should be possible to do, you would need a list of output channels, and then have a drop-down list where you could select the input channel and the volume of that channel, and probably a +/- button for adding input channels to each output channel.  It might also be needed to set it individually for 2 channel, 4 channel, 6 channel, and 8 channel inputs.</p>
<p>This would also be really useful for people with surround sound systems running stereo inputs who want to, for instance, route Left to Left-front and left-rear, right to right-front and right-rear, and both to center/LFE.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Volker</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>Volker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, very nice! A bit offtopic: did you read my message on IRC regarding this problem?

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245741</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, very nice! A bit offtopic: did you read my message on IRC regarding this problem?</p>
<p><a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245741" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245741</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Markus</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as PulseAudio keeps randomly muting my speakers by itself, I keep that crap disabled.
Pure Alsa FTW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as PulseAudio keeps randomly muting my speakers by itself, I keep that crap disabled.<br />
Pure Alsa FTW!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Colin</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-784</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the icon looks as you suggest (login icon, falling back to generic), but the idea of cycling through all the outputs is a good one. I&#039;ll look into it (eventually!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the icon looks as you suggest (login icon, falling back to generic), but the idea of cycling through all the outputs is a good one. I&#8217;ll look into it (eventually!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speak[er Setup] Now, or Forever hold your Peace. by Fri13</title>
		<link>http://colin.guthr.ie/2010/07/speaker-setup-now-or-forever-hold-your-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Fri13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks very nice. I really like the idea to be able press single element to play test sound from there. Maybe if possible, make the user icon as the login icon (or then somekind universal anonym user) and when you press it, it plays all the elements from front left -&gt; middle -&gt; right -&gt; rear right &gt; left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks very nice. I really like the idea to be able press single element to play test sound from there. Maybe if possible, make the user icon as the login icon (or then somekind universal anonym user) and when you press it, it plays all the elements from front left -&gt; middle -&gt; right -&gt; rear right &gt; left.</p>
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