Comments on: PulseAudio Phonon Support now in KDE trunk and heading towards 4.4 http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/ Illegitimi non carborundum Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:14:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Colin http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-541 Colin Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:18:47 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-541 I challenge your assertion that people believe PA is not worth the effort. I strongly believe it is worth the effort and anyone that really genuinely knows their stuff with regards to sound on linux knows that <strong>something</strong> is needed. Whether it's PA or not is more or less irrelevant as there is quite literally *nothing* out there just now presenting itself as a credible alternative to PA. That said, I strongly believe PA <strong>is</strong> the way forward. With regards to Audacity, it's been working fine with PA for a very long time. I just did some recording just now just to test and it's flawless. I really with people would stop spreading FUD about things when they really don't know the reasons for things. Even if PA does cause some disruption, it's not to say it is either a) to blame or b) conceptually flawed. I'm happy to engage in discussions on merit of design/architecture/goals but "my app doesn't work therefore PA is not worth the effort" style comments really annoy me. Free software is supposed to be about driving things forward as a community but to simply remove something and not provide feedback or bug reports really isn't going to help anyone. I challenge your assertion that people believe PA is not worth the effort. I strongly believe it is worth the effort and anyone that really genuinely knows their stuff with regards to sound on linux knows that something is needed. Whether it’s PA or not is more or less irrelevant as there is quite literally *nothing* out there just now presenting itself as a credible alternative to PA. That said, I strongly believe PA is the way forward.

With regards to Audacity, it’s been working fine with PA for a very long time. I just did some recording just now just to test and it’s flawless.

I really with people would stop spreading FUD about things when they really don’t know the reasons for things. Even if PA does cause some disruption, it’s not to say it is either a) to blame or b) conceptually flawed. I’m happy to engage in discussions on merit of design/architecture/goals but “my app doesn’t work therefore PA is not worth the effort” style comments really annoy me. Free software is supposed to be about driving things forward as a community but to simply remove something and not provide feedback or bug reports really isn’t going to help anyone.

]]> By: NordicIsak http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-539 NordicIsak Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:07:32 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-539 Will Audacity work? I was using KDE based distros because they do not include pulseaudio. And as anyone who records audio with linux can tell you Pulse is not worth the trouble. Is this a sign of the future? :( Will Audacity work? I was using KDE based distros because they do not include pulseaudio. And as anyone who records audio with linux can tell you Pulse is not worth the trouble. Is this a sign of the future? :(

]]> By: Colin http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-413 Colin Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:10:11 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-413 I'm already working on kmix support - have a peak in my Git repositories if you want a sneak preview although it is very much WIP at present. It doesn't do per-app controls, but it will do shortly - the main problem is that there is no way for a mixer control itself to tell the kmix window to repaint itself and include any new sliders and remove any old ones... this means it shows sliders for all devices detected at startup but wont show any hotplug ones.... soon tho' we'll work out what is needed to fix that. Wont be ready for 4.4 but I'm sure distros that ship it will backport it if it's deemed important enough :) Take care. I’m already working on kmix support – have a peak in my Git repositories if you want a sneak preview although it is very much WIP at present. It doesn’t do per-app controls, but it will do shortly – the main problem is that there is no way for a mixer control itself to tell the kmix window to repaint itself and include any new sliders and remove any old ones… this means it shows sliders for all devices detected at startup but wont show any hotplug ones…. soon tho’ we’ll work out what is needed to fix that. Wont be ready for 4.4 but I’m sure distros that ship it will backport it if it’s deemed important enough :) Take care.

]]> By: cabrey http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-412 cabrey Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:31:33 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-412 Question: Could you possible rewrite or extend KDE's kmix to expose PA's per-application volume control? So when you click on the volume icon in the tray, the overall system volume with a slider is on the left and applications with their own independent sliders are sequentially on the right. That would be awesome! Even GNOME's current implementation requires the user to open up another application. Question: Could you possible rewrite or extend KDE’s kmix to expose PA’s per-application volume control? So when you click on the volume icon in the tray, the overall system volume with a slider is on the left and applications with their own independent sliders are sequentially on the right. That would be awesome! Even GNOME’s current implementation requires the user to open up another application.

]]> By: TecnoWeb » Blog Archive » Le features di KDE 4.4 http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-410 TecnoWeb » Blog Archive » Le features di KDE 4.4 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:40:00 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-410 [...] 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...] [...] 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...]

]]> By: Colin http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-403 Colin Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:25:14 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-403 Well the windows and linux stacks are completely different code, so while you can prove that everything is physically OK, it's not surprising that differences exist between Window and Linux implementations. The first thing to check is whether you have enabled the relevant options in paprefs? Make sure you run this and tick the box that tells PA to discover ROAP sinks. The ROAP support is still WIP so it may not give brilliant results, but I am (slowly) working on it! Well the windows and linux stacks are completely different code, so while you can prove that everything is physically OK, it’s not surprising that differences exist between Window and Linux implementations.

The first thing to check is whether you have enabled the relevant options in paprefs? Make sure you run this and tick the box that tells PA to discover ROAP sinks. The ROAP support is still WIP so it may not give brilliant results, but I am (slowly) working on it!

]]> By: Don Rhummy http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-402 Don Rhummy Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:06:48 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-402 I have been unable to find the apple airports in my network from linux (but can do so in windows). Can you point me to the code in pulse audio where the discovery is done? What's confusing to me is that as far as I can tell, it should just be opening a multicast socket and talking through it, right? But for some reason it works on windows and not on linux?! I have been unable to find the apple airports in my network from linux (but can do so in windows). Can you point me to the code in pulse audio where the discovery is done?

What’s confusing to me is that as far as I can tell, it should just be opening a multicast socket and talking through it, right? But for some reason it works on windows and not on linux?!

]]> By: KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon | Risorse Free http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-390 KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon | Risorse Free Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:35:36 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-390 [...] che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato [...] [...] che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato [...]

]]> By: KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon - bruno trani dot info http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-389 KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon - bruno trani dot info Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:22:33 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-389 [...] in particolare che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...] [...] in particolare che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...]

]]> By: KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon | Fabrizio Savella http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/11/pulseaudio-phonon-support-now-in-kde-trunk-and-heading-towards-4-4/comment-page-1/#comment-385 KDE 4.4 includerà il supporto a PulseAudio per Phonon | Fabrizio Savella Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:24:45 +0000 http://colin.guthr.ie/?p=192#comment-385 [...] in particolare che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...] [...] in particolare che merita una maggiore attenzione: Colin Guthrie – uno sviluppatore scozzese – ha annunciato con entusiasmo che il suo lavoro su Phonon (il framework multimediale di KDE 4.x) è stato inserito [...]

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